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Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Bait and Switch?! PART TWO
Now that I've declared that there isn't any bait-and-switch going on in the mysterious world of airline ticketing, I would like to also come out on the record and declare that "Yes, Virginia, there IS bait and switch."
Confusing much? Yes.
Everything that I stated previously remains true-- prices do change by the second and there's no reason to assume the worst when you get to the critical credit-card-input moment and receive that terrible "THE FLIGHTS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BOOK ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE" message.
Stuff happens. Shitty stuff. It's not always part of an evil plot. But, um, sometimes it is.
Savvy travelers need to know that many major online travel vendors actively use bait-and-switch techniques in their sales.
(*cough*Expedia*cough*Orbitz*cough*Travelocity*cough*Priceline*cough*)
How? Most often by not disclosing fees, taxes, and fuel surcharges in their quotations. It happens like this: You make it all the way through the booking process, you're ready to pay for the tickets, you've called your friend in Paris to tell them about the "OMG CHEAP TICKET!," when the total suddenly flashes before your eyes-- WTF?! How did the price just DOUBLE?!
See, the airlines are allowed to charge taxes, fees, and fuel surcharges. Consumers generally expect anything called "taxes" to cost between 6-12% of the base fare. In the wacky world of plane tickets, it is not uncommon for the "taxes" to cost more than the ticket itself. The major culprit is the infamous fuel surcharge.
When you see a base fare advertising Chicago to Athens in June for $700.00, what that base fare isn't telling you is that only seven seats at that price are available at that price and that that price doesn't include $200.00 in taxes and another $500.00 in fuel surcharges. That super cheap $700 ticket? Ya, it's going to cost you $1,400.00.
A good travel agent or website quotes you prices that are inclusive of all taxes and fees-- no surprises. Call it bait-and-switch, call it unfair pricing, call it straight up lying... Whatever it is, it's unfair and it sucks. Do yourself a favor and either book directly through the airlines or find yourself a good travel agent that you trust. You'll appreciate it in the long run.
Confusing much? Yes.
Everything that I stated previously remains true-- prices do change by the second and there's no reason to assume the worst when you get to the critical credit-card-input moment and receive that terrible "THE FLIGHTS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BOOK ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE" message.
Stuff happens. Shitty stuff. It's not always part of an evil plot. But, um, sometimes it is.
Savvy travelers need to know that many major online travel vendors actively use bait-and-switch techniques in their sales.
(*cough*Expedia*cough*Orbitz*cough*Travelocity*cough*Priceline*cough*)
How? Most often by not disclosing fees, taxes, and fuel surcharges in their quotations. It happens like this: You make it all the way through the booking process, you're ready to pay for the tickets, you've called your friend in Paris to tell them about the "OMG CHEAP TICKET!," when the total suddenly flashes before your eyes-- WTF?! How did the price just DOUBLE?!
See, the airlines are allowed to charge taxes, fees, and fuel surcharges. Consumers generally expect anything called "taxes" to cost between 6-12% of the base fare. In the wacky world of plane tickets, it is not uncommon for the "taxes" to cost more than the ticket itself. The major culprit is the infamous fuel surcharge.
When you see a base fare advertising Chicago to Athens in June for $700.00, what that base fare isn't telling you is that only seven seats at that price are available at that price and that that price doesn't include $200.00 in taxes and another $500.00 in fuel surcharges. That super cheap $700 ticket? Ya, it's going to cost you $1,400.00.
A good travel agent or website quotes you prices that are inclusive of all taxes and fees-- no surprises. Call it bait-and-switch, call it unfair pricing, call it straight up lying... Whatever it is, it's unfair and it sucks. Do yourself a favor and either book directly through the airlines or find yourself a good travel agent that you trust. You'll appreciate it in the long run.
Bait and Switch?! PART ONE
Over on the Consumerist, there's a hearty discussion and debate going on about whether airlines use "bait and switch" techniques to get you to buy plane tickets. It's a valid question, and a problem familiar to most everyone who has ever attempted to book plane tickets online.
Reader Tom shares his story:
Sounds familiar, right? Here's my take:
While the "bait and switch" theory it is definitely a fun and exciting prospect, a more accurate explanation is that the majority of Virgin America's fares are "Instant Purchase" fares. The same is true for most low-cost airlines.
Some of the terms I'm about to use are going to sound like gibberish to people not in the industry, so use my handy glossary if you need to and hang with me here-- I'm going to try to make this as easy to understand as possible.
When you select a flight, and a price, what you're really telling the computer to do is build you a record, also called a "Passenger Name Record" or "PNR," with that flight segment at a particular fare basis.
Let's pretend that you're booking a flight from San Francisco to Las Vegas at the super-cheap $49.00 fare. What you're really doing is selling one segment, in a particular class of service (we're not talking first class or coach class here, we're talking fare class), into a PNR.
Maybe it's Virgin America (VA) flight 387 from San Francisco (SFO) to Las Vegas (LAS) in "V" class on 29-May-2008.
When that segment gets "sold" into your booking, you still have a shell of a booking. The segment shows up as "SS," which means it's not actually confirmed. You can remember what SS means by thinking "Selected Segment." When the segment is SS'd, it's only selected, not confirmed.
When you make the actual booking (put in your name, phone number, payment information, etc...), the segments in the PNR are converted from "SS" to "HK," which means that they're confirmed. You can remember what HK means by thinking "Holds Konfirmed." (Okay, I know that's not spelled correctly, but just play along.)
Some airlines, Alaska (AS) for instance, will let you build and confirm the PNR on their website without entering payment information-- they'll let you hold the space for 24 hours. VA doesn't do that-- you have to pay immediately to get your PNR confirmed. Therefore, the space that
you've got "held" on VA is only SS'd until you actually pay for the flights and complete the transaction. Then, and only then, is when the segments go from SS to HK.
Two things can happen while the segments are SS'd-- someone else can swoop in and buy the seats at that fare right out from under you, especially if there was only one seat left at that fare. That happens all of the time. If there is only one seat left at V class and you're holding onto it with the segment SS'd instead of HK'd, someone else can book that same V class seat and, if they're ready to book-and-buy before you, buy it right out from underneath you.
The other thing that can happen is that the SS hold can expire. When you're dealing with instant purchase tickets, if you you have SS segments held for too long (maybe you pulled some flights on VirginAmerica.com and now you're shopping around on Priceline.com before you make your final decision) the SS segments will cancel themselves and that "instant purchase" price will no longer be valid for the segments that you selected. The computer may tell you that you have to start all over, or it may offer you a higher-priced, not-instant-purchase fare.
This process is standard industry wide and it's really just a computer glitch more than anything else. No big plot here.
Because the airlines don't allow PNR churning (using the same PNR over and over to rebook flights), if you find that you've lost your original price quote, close out your browser window and start all over. If you can rebook it at the same price, awesome. If you can't, it's pretty safe to assume that someone else bought up your cheap ticket.
In this industry, it really is possible that you see a fare and then, 10 seconds later, it isn't available anymore. It's not bait-and-switch, it's reality. Ticket prices, and availability, change by the second and until the segments that you want are HK'd, it's all subject to change.
Reader Tom shares his story:
"...Tom was all set to buy a ticket on Virgin America when all of a sudden
the fare he thought was locked in shot up 33%. The machine told him his
reservation had expired. Tom tried redoing the purchase several times,
clearing his cookies, changing browsers, only to continue to be denied by
Richard Branson's faceless automaton army..."
Sounds familiar, right? Here's my take:
While the "bait and switch" theory it is definitely a fun and exciting prospect, a more accurate explanation is that the majority of Virgin America's fares are "Instant Purchase" fares. The same is true for most low-cost airlines.
Some of the terms I'm about to use are going to sound like gibberish to people not in the industry, so use my handy glossary if you need to and hang with me here-- I'm going to try to make this as easy to understand as possible.
When you select a flight, and a price, what you're really telling the computer to do is build you a record, also called a "Passenger Name Record" or "PNR," with that flight segment at a particular fare basis.
Let's pretend that you're booking a flight from San Francisco to Las Vegas at the super-cheap $49.00 fare. What you're really doing is selling one segment, in a particular class of service (we're not talking first class or coach class here, we're talking fare class), into a PNR.
Maybe it's Virgin America (VA) flight 387 from San Francisco (SFO) to Las Vegas (LAS) in "V" class on 29-May-2008.
When that segment gets "sold" into your booking, you still have a shell of a booking. The segment shows up as "SS," which means it's not actually confirmed. You can remember what SS means by thinking "Selected Segment." When the segment is SS'd, it's only selected, not confirmed.
When you make the actual booking (put in your name, phone number, payment information, etc...), the segments in the PNR are converted from "SS" to "HK," which means that they're confirmed. You can remember what HK means by thinking "Holds Konfirmed." (Okay, I know that's not spelled correctly, but just play along.)
Some airlines, Alaska (AS) for instance, will let you build and confirm the PNR on their website without entering payment information-- they'll let you hold the space for 24 hours. VA doesn't do that-- you have to pay immediately to get your PNR confirmed. Therefore, the space that
you've got "held" on VA is only SS'd until you actually pay for the flights and complete the transaction. Then, and only then, is when the segments go from SS to HK.
Two things can happen while the segments are SS'd-- someone else can swoop in and buy the seats at that fare right out from under you, especially if there was only one seat left at that fare. That happens all of the time. If there is only one seat left at V class and you're holding onto it with the segment SS'd instead of HK'd, someone else can book that same V class seat and, if they're ready to book-and-buy before you, buy it right out from underneath you.
The other thing that can happen is that the SS hold can expire. When you're dealing with instant purchase tickets, if you you have SS segments held for too long (maybe you pulled some flights on VirginAmerica.com and now you're shopping around on Priceline.com before you make your final decision) the SS segments will cancel themselves and that "instant purchase" price will no longer be valid for the segments that you selected. The computer may tell you that you have to start all over, or it may offer you a higher-priced, not-instant-purchase fare.
This process is standard industry wide and it's really just a computer glitch more than anything else. No big plot here.
Because the airlines don't allow PNR churning (using the same PNR over and over to rebook flights), if you find that you've lost your original price quote, close out your browser window and start all over. If you can rebook it at the same price, awesome. If you can't, it's pretty safe to assume that someone else bought up your cheap ticket.
In this industry, it really is possible that you see a fare and then, 10 seconds later, it isn't available anymore. It's not bait-and-switch, it's reality. Ticket prices, and availability, change by the second and until the segments that you want are HK'd, it's all subject to change.
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Y Class
Y class is the class for a full-fare coach class ticket. A Y class ticket is the most expensive ticket in the coach cabin, however it also offers the most flexibility: free date changes and fully refundable. In most cases, however, it does not make sense to purchase a Y class ticket, as the fare difference is far more than any change or cancellation fees would be. "Y" is also used as a generic term for all coach class seats, as in "I'm seated in the Y cabin."
Ticket Pricing Basics
Have you ever been on a flight and wondered how in the world it’s possible that there are 150 people on the plane and each person paid a different price for their ticket? How did you pay $250.00 while the person on your right paid $325.00 and the person on your left paid $175.00?
Ticketing is a simple concept, once you get the hang of it. Tickets are priced using various fare basis codes and availability. Each airline creates fares for each of their routings, and routings that they sell through codeshare agreements.
For each routing, there will be dozens of different prices. Some fares will be online-only web specials while others will be last minute full-fare prices. They will all have different rules and restrictions. Common restrictions include blackout dates, advance purchase restrictions, cancellation and change penalties, and seasonality.
The more expensive the fare, the more flexible the ticket is going to be and vice versa-- don't go thinkin' that you're going to be able to change the dates on that last-minute $79.00 web special!
Here is an example of a flight availability display in the GDS Amadeus:
Ticketing is a simple concept, once you get the hang of it. Tickets are priced using various fare basis codes and availability. Each airline creates fares for each of their routings, and routings that they sell through codeshare agreements.
For each routing, there will be dozens of different prices. Some fares will be online-only web specials while others will be last minute full-fare prices. They will all have different rules and restrictions. Common restrictions include blackout dates, advance purchase restrictions, cancellation and change penalties, and seasonality.
The more expensive the fare, the more flexible the ticket is going to be and vice versa-- don't go thinkin' that you're going to be able to change the dates on that last-minute $79.00 web special!
Here is an example of a flight availability display in the GDS Amadeus:
If you look closely, you can see that the flights being shown are flights from ORD (Chicago O'hare) and MCI (Kansas City International) on the 15th of October. The first flight that comes up is an American Airlines (AA) flight at 8:23 am. Each of those letters, with a number by it, represents a fare level.
Right now, most of the fare levels are still available, as there are no zeroes anywhere. The "F" represents a full-fare first class ticket and the "Y" represents a full-fare coach class ticket. All of the letters after the "Y" are lower priced fares, with the "O" fare being the lowest fare class available.
Here is a fare display:
This fare display is for a flight from Los Angeles to Sydney. The column on the left shows the different fares that are available. The first letter in the fare indicates the fare basis that it needs to be booked in. In this case, the fare we're looking for is "B" class because we want that $3,076.00 round trip fare.
If we wanted to know the rules for any particular fare, we could pull those up (in detail) by using a rule display. Once we decide the fare that's right for you (the lowest price fare that offers the routing and rules that you want), we'd start looking for availability.
Using this fare display, we would pull up availability on US Airways (because that's the airline that fare display was for) and find a flight that has "B" space still available. We would know it was available because next to the letter "B" in the fare display, there would be a number from zero to seven. Generally, seven is the highest number they'll show.
The number shown indicates the amount of seats, on that particular flight, that are still available to purchase at that price. Once "B" class is sold out, you have to move up to the next available booking class, or find another flight that still has "B" class available.
It's really just basic supply and demand-- as a flight becomes more full, the prices on that particular flight go up. Understanding how pricing works will go a long ways towards helping you shop for the best tickets. It's also one of the reasons that using a travel agent is a smart choice-- there's no way for you to pull up a fare display or an availability display on Travelocity or Orbitz or anywhere else on the internet.
A good travel agent will be able to find you deals that you never knew were available and they'll be able to do it a lot faster than you can do it on the internet.
/shameless plug
Friday, March 28, 2008
The Flight Interruption Manifest(o)
What is a "Flight Interruption Manifest?"
And, again-- this time in English! A FIM is the ticket you get when your ticketing airline royally F's up, leaving you stranded. Some people call FIMing "Rule 240," however that term is pretty old school and isn't going to be understood by the fresh-out-of-college 22-year-old kid working the ticket counter.
Next time you find yourself stuck at O'hare on a four hour mechanical delay, tell 'em you that want to be FIM'd onto the next available flight (on ANY airline!) and away you'll go.
(If you want to get technical, here's what a FIM is: your ticketing airline reissues your original ticket for a ticket on a new airline because of a delay or cancellation on their part. They process the reissue [and pay the other airline to transport you] and then you go to the new airline and check in just like any other paying passenger. The remainder of your ticket remains the same-- the only part of your ticket that is modified are the segments in question.)
Courtesy of Wikipedia:
A Flight Interruption Manifest (FIM) is a document issued by
an airline as a substitute ticket for passengers experiencing irregularities
during travel when the original ticket is not available. A FIM is generally
issued at a gate, ticket counter, or transit desk by an airline agent and will
note their original routing and ticket numbers, as well as those of the new
routing, thereby making the FIM the new ticket.
A FIM is only valid for a specific flight on a new airline
that is not the airline the ticket was originally issued with. For example, a
Delta gate agent could produce a FIM for a flight on United and send the data to
United. The FIM would then be accepted as a regular ticket on the specified
United flight.
Flight interruption manifests are perceived by both flying
passengers and airlines as becoming increasingly impractical, especially with
the widespread use of electronic ticketing, or e-Tickets. Producing a FIM
requires that the e-ticket be converted to a regular paper ticket and that the
data manually be sent to the receiving airline. Several carriers have announced
that they will be working together to smooth and digitize these
transactions.
And, again-- this time in English! A FIM is the ticket you get when your ticketing airline royally F's up, leaving you stranded. Some people call FIMing "Rule 240," however that term is pretty old school and isn't going to be understood by the fresh-out-of-college 22-year-old kid working the ticket counter.
Next time you find yourself stuck at O'hare on a four hour mechanical delay, tell 'em you that want to be FIM'd onto the next available flight (on ANY airline!) and away you'll go.
(If you want to get technical, here's what a FIM is: your ticketing airline reissues your original ticket for a ticket on a new airline because of a delay or cancellation on their part. They process the reissue [and pay the other airline to transport you] and then you go to the new airline and check in just like any other paying passenger. The remainder of your ticket remains the same-- the only part of your ticket that is modified are the segments in question.)
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